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04 April 2005 @ 05:42 pm
Voluntary Human Extinction  
Really - I just don't get it. Do these people honestly hate humanity that much?
 
 
 
altoidsaddict on April 5th, 2005 12:29 am (UTC)
Given that it's voluntary, and that most of the people who have responded to your post seem to be completely baffled by the concept of deciding to not breed...

Yeah, that's a little scary to me, this failure to understand why on earth anyone would make a decision to not have children. It's not Involuntary Human Extinction - and deciding that it was ecogolically irresponsible of me to bring a child into the world or to artificially prolong my own life using extreme measures were conclusions I came to even before medical issues forced both to become realities. (God, am I happy biology is in line with my mentality.)

I don't think it's "hating humanity" to make these decisions for myself, nor do I think it's "another breed of crazy"; and anyone who is not currently in possession of my womb and my circulatory problems can kindly fuck off if they think so.
Scott: Say what?scott_lynch on April 5th, 2005 01:31 am (UTC)
Well, thank you, the pair of you, for the fascinatingly condescending way you have of putting words in our mouths. Because, of course, none of us could ever conceive of the idea of voluntarily not having children. I myself was actually put off primarily by their rather silly conception of a "pristine earth" which is actually incredibly anthropocentric. But hey, jump to whatever conclusions you like if it helps you sleep at night.
altoidsaddict on April 5th, 2005 02:18 am (UTC)
No problem. Glad to have helped.

Where did I quote you, again? ::confused:: ::goes to sleep the sleep of innocent babes::

Or, alternately, it might help to not be so utterly dismissive and condescending to the entire concept of VHEMT. It takes a long time to type out "I see where they're coming from, but some people take it too far" or "man, are there whackjobs who might take this in an involuntary direction". Much easier to make generalizations - because then you can jump all over people who then respond to that generalization as though they should have known you were objecting to specific arguments somehow and didn't mean your situation, really.

There I go putting words in your mouth, again! Damn me. I'll just say that if someone dismisses an entire idea as crackpotted, crazy, and hateful, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that they're against the entire idea.