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27 October 2004 @ 05:37 pm
Reference of the Day: "Steve Jackson Games 1, Secret Service 0"  
A whole lot of people seem to be surprised that the secret service performed an investigation on a Livejournaler who posted a huge anti-Bush rant on-line, ostensibly threatening the life of the President. They were directed to the post by an anonymous LJ reader, not a Magic Lantern/Carnivore-esque LJ crawler, as some people seem to believe.

Every administration has interpreted this law differently, but the Secret Service has made it a priority to deal with each threat (or potential threat) very seriously. As much as some people would like it to happen (and THERE ARE DAYS), being the president is already a dangerous job, and the president deserves protection. You don't have to be a faith-based fascist son of a bitch corporate whore president to have people hate your guts - Clinton got a blowjob, and how many people tried to kill him that we heard about?

Other than having to deal with the Secret Service and getting an FBI file, nothing else happened to this person. This person was not beaten bloody with bailing wire and electrocuted with car batteries. That this somehow surprises me is a sad commentary on the state of our government, but if this person is to be believed (and I think they are) this was a routine investigation of a threat on the President's life (on average, there are 1,500 of these investigations per year).  If this is a wake-up call to the Internet generation that what you say on this website doesn't matter because it's the Internet, then today is the day (I hope) you learn the difference.
 
 
 
Nightwalkerhalfawake on October 27th, 2004 04:49 pm (UTC)
A whole lot of people seem to be surprised that the secret service performed an investigation on a Livejournaler who posted a huge anti-Bush rant on-line, ostensibly threatening the life of the President.

If that's true, then a whole lot of LiveJournal users are very stupid. The Secret Service doesn't have the man power to carry out internet searches 24/7 for people threatening the president's life.

That this somehow surprises me is a sad commentary on the state of our government, but if this person is to be believed (and I think they are) this was a routine investigation of a threat on the President's life (on average, there are 1,500 of these investigations per year). If this is a wake-up call to the Internet generation that what you say on this website doesn't matter because it's the Internet, then today is the day (I hope) you learn the difference.

I'm still not sure whether to believe this lady or think it's a hoax. I'm leaning towards hoax at the moment though. But I agree with you, and thank you for posting this. People are stupid to think that just because you can say anything you want online means that you should say anything that you think of. The threat was, in my opinion, an obvious joke, but I think that the lady was still stupid to post it online publicly.
Doomutilitygeek on October 28th, 2004 11:31 am (UTC)
Regardless of whether this particular instance is a hoax or not, I know at least one person well, and another somewhat, who ... um ... got to meet Secret Service agents because of what they posted on a public forum. Also, the forum's host got a visitation. Needless to say, he wasn't pleased.

Even if it's a joke, even if it seems obvious, the Secret Service will investigate if they think there's even the slightest possibility that it's not really a joke.
Nightwalkerhalfawake on October 28th, 2004 04:55 pm (UTC)

Even if it's a joke, even if it seems obvious, the Secret Service will investigate if they think there's even the slightest possibility that it's not really a joke.


Yes...and? I still fail to see what the problem with this is. Assuming it isn't a joke and the Secret Service really did investigate, so what? They were doing their job. They don't joke around about stuff like this. I don't see why people think they can say anything - even really stupid things like this, just because it's the internet.
Doomutilitygeek on October 28th, 2004 06:17 pm (UTC)
I wasn't meaning to imply that there was anything wrong with them investigating. Quite frankly, as much as I dislike Bush, I'm glad he's protected. If nothing else, I've got that much respect for the office.
Nightwalkerhalfawake on October 28th, 2004 06:25 pm (UTC)
Ah, my mistake. I misunderstood your comments there. I agree, I'm glad he's protected for the same reason.
Doomutilitygeek on October 28th, 2004 06:28 pm (UTC)
No worries.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on October 30th, 2004 12:33 pm (UTC)
Programs like Carnivore and Magic Lantern are designed to automate searches for troubling material on-line or in e-mail. The Secret Service does not perform internet searches - if this person is to be believed, they were tipped off by somebody.

And if that's the post, I don't know what to believe about this very, very stupid person anymore.
Nightwalkerhalfawake on October 30th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I know that's what things like Carnivore are for. I also know that the Secret Service doesn't perform automated searches. I don't think I implied that they do, and if I did, it was purely accidental.

But yes, I agree, that is a very very stupid person. It's definitely the post, if you don't believe that screenshot, look for yourself: do a google search for this:

anniesj site:livejournal.com "George bush"


The entry she posted is no longer visible on LiveJournal, but Google has it cached, so you can view it there so long as you click the cached link rather than the direct link to her journal.