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28 September 2004 @ 09:26 pm
Yuppie Fascism  
Petey! 2005 v.3.57 sent me a link to a Star Tribune story with P. Mokros (a former Mac Math/CS guy) in it, about how wealthy Generation X'ers are buying homes while they're single now, and learning to decorate them.

I remember in the 80's when they were just called yuppies.

The article hit something strangely primal and raw in how offended I was in the content. The article is basically talking about how single guys have to learn how to be good providers/designers with their own homes when they date, so women will be attracted to them (caution should be taken so that women don't think you're a "metrosexual"). Apparently this mysterious "attractive to the average woman" bar has been raised a few more invisible pegs, and (fortunately for yours truly) the Star Trib is right on top of that.

I could give two shits about what my house looks like, aside from being presentable to company. I don't always work to the utmost to make sure it is presentable (the perennial bathroom problem, which I have to tackle this weekend). But I have never found materialistic* women to be attractive - in fact, physically attractive women who are materialistic become unattractive, as if through some kind of magical moral filter. I would rather somebody likes me for who I am, and not what I own.  Also, a house is pretty expensive pre-dating entrance criteria for anybody around my age. This is mostly common sense, but I know many people who don't seem to understand this idea that debt is bad, ego-inflation at the expense of mental health is also bad, and genuine self-esteem is good.

I've also been reading Boomeritis, which is Ken Wilber's novel about the disease of the green meme, and how it's cured. That probably has something to do with my anti-yuppie reaction.

* Both economically and philosophically
lyght on September 28th, 2004 07:44 pm (UTC)
Wow. None of that article is sexist. At all.

Hoc Est Qui Sumus: Devourdiscoflamingo on September 28th, 2004 07:57 pm (UTC)
NO! NOT A WORD!!!!111oneoneoneONE
ninja in the shadows: angrydragonseiryu_16 on September 28th, 2004 07:55 pm (UTC)
That article made me open my mouth multiple times in a "no they DIDN'T!" kind of shock. What the fuck.

"wow lookit these single guys who decorate! what a wonderful idea to help attract a woman who will later marry them and finish the decorating job FOR them OMG!!!"


Ergh. I'd just love to write an article with that same beginning, then just scratch the record and say, "What the fuck. These people are so fucking retarded. Can you even believe how retarded these people are?? Jesus." And dive into a rant about all the things that are wrong with all this.

Pffffft. Anyhow. Be good.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 28th, 2004 07:58 pm (UTC)
I'm being good - just, the frustration levels . . . keep . . . rising . . .
ninja in the shadows: samus_aranseiryu_16 on September 28th, 2004 08:03 pm (UTC)
I hear that. Just... watch Homestar Runner for a bit? Or play Halo? Laughing at StrongBad or blowing things up ususally works for me. And also, call me whenever, and we can rant and talk about random things and so on. ::hug:: You know.
Wendy: Mad Mutant Clownmaerchen on September 28th, 2004 08:11 pm (UTC)
Oh, yeah. When I say, "I love you," it means "I love your ottoman." Grrrr.
Jennyguipago on September 29th, 2004 06:25 am (UTC)
Heh. I'm so using that line later on today :p

Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
That icon REALLY creeps me out, dear.
roboduckyroboducky on September 28th, 2004 11:35 pm (UTC)
disclaimer: i didn't read the article, and just finished doing chemistry for approximately the past 14 hours.

but yeah, people with "perfectly arranged" houses creep me out. don't get me wrong, i don't want a house to be a complete mess, but i'd rather be in a house that looks lived in than a perfectly decorated house. decor should reflect your personality, not what a magazine tells you can get you a chick.

it's a disturbing trend that things such as how a bachelor should arrange his home is now being published in articles. i guess there were always magazines and books that advised people on how to best raise children. it seems like now people are much more likely to ask a magazine than say, their own parents how to raise a kid. i might just be getting older and noticing these things more, but i don't need a kix box to tell me how to get my kid to build a fort out of couch cushions in such a way that it builds good problem solving skills.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
I'm of the mind that there is no right way to build a cushion fort - until it is attacked by the aliens.
Hillarysusanofstohelit on September 29th, 2004 02:43 am (UTC)
no time to read the article, can only say that I'm sure we all know how outstanding the strib generally is in terms of journalistic content.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:18 pm (UTC)
No argument there, but OUCH!
Jennyguipago on September 29th, 2004 06:29 am (UTC)
Heh. I didn't read the article. But the first thing that popped into my brain was..

"oh, hell yeah, I know I'm dating scott so that I can fix up the non-existant house he owns and then marry him to finish it up..."


I'm sorry, if I don't laugh at this bullshit, I'm force to hurt someone and I'd rather not :P

Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:17 pm (UTC)
We all have to laugh or we'll die - that seems to be the way of things, lately.
Jennyguipago on September 29th, 2004 02:04 pm (UTC)
Don't it though?
XCorvisxcorvis on September 29th, 2004 06:42 am (UTC)
Also, a house is pretty expensive pre-dating entrance criteria for anybody around my age.
Yah, but Pete is not really your age. He's at least 27, I think, and that makes quite a bit of difference financially. Especially since he got into computer work before it all blew up. Also, most of our friends can't be considered gen-x. We straddle the line between gen-x and whatever stupid nickname the next group will get. Pete's not even really gen-x, 'cuz most of them are in their early 30s.
roboduckyroboducky on September 29th, 2004 07:41 am (UTC)
i like the term 'fucking millenials.'
XCorvisxcorvis on September 29th, 2004 09:03 am (UTC)
Ooh, yah. They use that term here.
Josiah Carlsonchouyu_31 on September 29th, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)
I FUCKING HATE the ternm "millenials".

I'm not a big fan of "Gen-x" or "Gen-y" either.

Mind you, I don't have a better name, but I haven't really been thinking of it.
like a hundred billion hot dogs: georgehalf_double on September 29th, 2004 06:47 am (UTC)
And now, let the twitching commence. There are so many things wrong with that article that I don't even know where to start. But I think the part that disturbs me most is the idea that these men are presenting themselves as potential mates based not on love (or even lust) but as a commodity, as though women shop for men the same way they shop for, well, furniture. And, not that I've done much shopping for men or furniture, I would say to these men: if you arrange your life to attract a woman who's going about her love life that way, you deserve all the misery that's going to follow you for the rest of your days.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:45 pm (UTC)
Preach it, sister!
elfdope on September 29th, 2004 08:54 am (UTC)
I have seen Gen X defined as something like those born between 1967 and 1978. My general definition has been those of High School or College age when Nirvana's "Nevermind" dropped which would be September 24, 1991, which brackets birthdays from 1969 to 1977. Which is why I am Gen X, and my wife is Gen whatevah.
Oυτιςerragal on September 29th, 2004 09:47 am (UTC)
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 01:16 pm (UTC)
My understanding was X = [1965,1980], Y=[1980,1995].
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on September 29th, 2004 02:41 pm (UTC)
I thought it was...
Bullshit=[-5 Billion, present]
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 29th, 2004 10:44 pm (UTC)
Re: I thought it was...
Or (-∞, present], but who's counting.
though she be but little, she is fiercehilabeans on September 29th, 2004 10:15 pm (UTC)
Hmmm... objection one that I have to that article is that both the guys they point out are lawyers. As I know, since I want to be a lawyer, they usually make assloads of money unless they're working for the government. Enough money to buy a house or condo. Enough money to buy a lot of furniture in one weekend and not worry about how they're going to pay off the credit card bill. The average guy does not make a lawyer's salary.

Objection 2: Why the hell should a guy need a woman to add the finishing touches to his house?

Objection 3: What the hell is wrong with the woman owning the house? Let's flash back to March 1979, when my parents got married. Dad was almost 28, Mom almost 29. Dad moved from his rented apartment into the house Mom owned, with her washer and dryer and mostly her furniture (although he did have a little of his own). Why should a woman have to look for a man to provide for her, no matter what age either of them may be? She can do it her damn self.

Objection 4: Perfect homes make me uncomfortable. I'm always afraid I'm going to mess something up. I look around and think, "Okay, where do you really live?" And, not being the world's neatest person myself, I'd be seriously intimidated by a guy with a spotless house/condo - not to mention a $7,000 red leather couch...

I'm going to stop there, in the interests of not making my reply to the article longer than the article itself.

Also? I agree one hundred per cent with your comments about debt and self-esteem. And I really don't see the point in being attracted to someone or marrying them for what they own when you might get rid of some of the belongings, but you're committing to spend the rest of your life with the person.