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25 March 2004 @ 05:26 pm
"We measure the things we value."

EDIT: I should note that the quote in question is from some training materials on Six Sigma and the Personal Software Development method that I've been reading at work - the actual author is the developer of the PSD/TSD/*SD iterative development model - his name is worth remembering, which is why I can't right now :-/
atelierlune on March 25th, 2004 04:27 pm (UTC)
If I may
I disagree. We measure because it is the nature of human beings to organize things, to make sense of them.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on March 25th, 2004 09:52 pm (UTC)
Re: If I may
I suppose what you think the statement means by the word "measure". The state of a relationship can be measured by talking, contact, and past history; that doesn't make your method of measurement either valid or conceptually correct. Sometimes the only measurement is "yes" or "no", or time spent thinking about things. Sometimes there is no good way to measure things, but we try anyways. I think the phrase requires a very broad interpretation of the word "measure".

Is this making sense?
atelierlune on March 25th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)
Re: If I may
Actually, I still think my definition of measure is correct by your example. Talking, contact, and past history are all factors or tools that can help a human being gauge a relationship, to make sense of it. "Yes" and "No" are not quantitative reponses; as data goes they don't tell you much - though I agree that in cases little or nothing can be known, and attempts at grasping the measured concept(s) are merely that and nothing else.
iophaiopha on March 25th, 2004 04:37 pm (UTC)
We value the things we measure?
ninja in the shadows: evil edseiryu_16 on March 25th, 2004 05:02 pm (UTC)
Dammit. You beat me to it!
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on March 25th, 2004 09:55 pm (UTC)
Indeed - I believe that there might be an isomorphism here . . .
XCorvisxcorvis on March 25th, 2004 04:38 pm (UTC)
< Insert dick measuring joke >
Hoc Est Qui Sumus: Devourdiscoflamingo on March 25th, 2004 09:54 pm (UTC)
We love the cock! Especially when it's ours!
Moxie Crimefighterdrowdancer on March 25th, 2004 07:33 pm (UTC)
Mill: The sole evidence of a thing's desirability (utility) is that people do indeed desire it.

Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on March 25th, 2004 10:17 pm (UTC)
Every day at work is like Mill's jizz-covered idealized work environment . . .

Or the opposite, which may or may not also be jizz-covered . . .
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on March 25th, 2004 09:12 pm (UTC)
"We measure the things we're fucking told to by our lab TAs, because the thing we fucking value is a decent grade and a motherfucking graduate degree."