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30 September 2004 @ 04:13 pm
 
October is Black History month in Great Britain. Apparently, they celebrate it very differently than the schlock I'm used to in the U.S. - this is the first time I've seen a report on Black History Month that actually addresses the problem of slavery.
 
 
 
stemware on September 30th, 2004 02:31 pm (UTC)
You must live in a different part of the country than me.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 30th, 2004 03:25 pm (UTC)
Well, most of Minnesota/Wisoncins has been like that.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 30th, 2004 03:25 pm (UTC)
Well, that was the worst misspelling of Wisconsin I've ever made. Of course, I am a native . . .
lio on September 30th, 2004 02:41 pm (UTC)
That's pretty cool. Thanks for posting this.
a certain brand of escape: hitomi!atelierlune on September 30th, 2004 04:11 pm (UTC)
Schlock, eh?
I've always wondered how Black European history has been commented on, how slavery and prejudice has been borne by different nations and how they live compared to us. I remember watching MTV once and a German (Caucasian) woman was shown breaking up with her black boyfriend. It made me want to ask so many questions.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on September 30th, 2004 08:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
We never went over anything in school except for MLK Jr. and GW Carver. Mac wasn't any better. It was feel-good crap that never addressed any of the underlying problems that have faced blacks throughout history.
a certain brand of escapeatelierlune on September 30th, 2004 09:20 pm (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
I did take a class on pre-Civil War slave narratives that really was interesting and cut to the heart of concepts about authenticity and storytelling - we devoted a good chunk of time to the whole Jefferson issue for that reason, and some similarly modern debates like North Carolina still flying the Rebel flag. But otherwise I have to agree that a lot of the in depth stuff I've learned about slavery was from TV documentaries, books and stuff my father tells me. Hm.
a certain brand of escapeatelierlune on September 30th, 2004 09:26 pm (UTC)
Whoops.
I should mention that said class was at Mac, with the same woman who taught Janet's Afro-American detective novel class, which I am now much less suspicious of than I was when I first heard about it. She was a great teacher and I can't remember her name right now for anything. I wish I'd had her freshman year for some class but that's a different story.
devilstears on October 1st, 2004 10:06 am (UTC)
Re: Whoops.
It was African American Literature I took from her, not detective novels--I switched after the first class--and it's Prof. English. She's a nice person, and is good at teaching what she knows--but she did not assign enough reading and has a very, very limited pov and understanding, and no ability to see beyond it, which is really frustrating to deal with, considering how insulting she becomes when dealing with the fringes of her pov. I imagine this would change with consistant exposure to Mac students, and I only had her for her first semester at Mac, so by the time you had her, she might have expanded her views. I actually did not enjoy her as a teacher, but outside of class, liked her and had good discussions with her (I loaned her Mama Lola to discuss with me outside of class).
a certain brand of escapeatelierlune on October 1st, 2004 11:23 am (UTC)
Re: Whoops.
I thought she assigned us plenty of reading (she specifically mentioned that someone from another class said she didn't give enough to read our semester, which did come after yours) and I really appreciated her insight on writing a better paper. She articulated something I've been struggling with in my writing and how to get beyond it that I've never been able to discuss with any other teacher before.
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on October 1st, 2004 06:42 am (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
What classes did you actually take on African American history at Mac?
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on October 1st, 2004 07:20 am (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
I said Black History Month, not a class.
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on October 1st, 2004 01:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
I'm sorry. What events did you partake in at Mac that celebrated Black History month?

Is that better?
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on October 1st, 2004 02:51 pm (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
My first year I went to three of the sponsored talks.
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on October 1st, 2004 03:34 pm (UTC)
Re: Schlock, eh?
And they just talked about peanuts and shit? Man, you should have taken a class.
Scottscott_lynch on September 30th, 2004 05:09 pm (UTC)
Mention slavery? Fucking liberal pussy, always dewlling in the past. Look, those people came over here from Blacksylvania or whatever because they were fleeing opression and wanted to be free. Then they invented the peanut and the traffic light. Then they all started bitching and moaning about handouts, and learning Spanish so they didn't have to speak English, and now they support the terrorists. What else is there to say? My schoolbooks were always perfectly clear on this. So's President Bush.
Hoc Est Qui Sumusdiscoflamingo on October 1st, 2004 02:52 pm (UTC)
You have this ability to be so over-the-top I can't help but find it endearing :-)
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on September 30th, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)
Okay. Okay, as a religious studies major who has small chunks of obsession throughout the ancient middle east? The section of Nefertiti is like fucking PABLUM, I'd just like to point out.
Do You Wanna Be Free or You Wanna Be Right?malcubed on September 30th, 2004 05:26 pm (UTC)
And I'm sorry, but that didn't really seem all that different from any random Black History month things I had to undergo in grade school. Other than the bit about the colonized armies helping Britain. I don't think we covered that. And the fact that Britain apparently still considers Indians to be black people, yet a nurse still managed to be the most important black person in British history.

Maybe we're not quite so far behind on integration as I would've thought, hm? Or maybe Mary Seacole is just like MAD cool.